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transcript: https://emergencemagazine.org/story/fermenting-culture/#:~:text=In%20this%20in%2Ddepth%20interview,culture%20on%20a%20deeper%20level.

Fermenting Culture

An Interview with David Zilber

In this in-depth interview, David Zilber, director of the fermentation lab at Noma—named the best restaurant in the world—discusses how food is culture, but fermentation is culture on a deeper level.

“Culture” and “culture” mean two different things to a biologist and an anthropologist, but in fermentation, they overlap completely.

transcript and main podcast page:

Fermenting Culture – Emergence Magazine