[Spotted by Ian Glendinning – not yet available other than on the website and in ‘BBC Sounds’ app. Interesting, not perfect, intriguing reading list… always my favourite show, I had secretly hoped to replace Melvyn Bragg but he fooled me by retiring early 😉 ]
Radio 4,·
30 Apr 2026,·
52 mins
Cybernetics
In Our Time
Misha Glenny and guests discuss cybernetics – the field of study which gave us the prefix ‘cyber’ and helped lay the foundations for the information age. After the Second World War, cybernetics emerged as the study of communication, feedback, and control in both animals and machines. Cybernetics was first defined in 1948 by the American mathematician Norbert Wiener (1894-1964) and aimed to find a shared universal language which could be used across disciplines. The name drew on an Ancient Greek word for steersman, the person who stands at the helm of a ship to steer or govern its course. Cybernetics saw the world as systems which used loops of information and feedback to adjust their own course of action. Those ideas could be applied to anything from thermostats to the human brain, and arguably laid foundations for the information age.
With
Jacob Ward
Historian of science and technology at Maastricht University
Jon Agar
Professor of Science and Technology Studies at University College London
And
Orit Halpern
Lighthouse Professor and Chair of Digital Cultures at Technische Universität Dresden
Producer: Martha Owen
Reading list:
Peter Galison, ‘The ontology of the enemy: Norbert Wiener and the cybernetic vision’ (Critical Inquiry 21, 1994)
Slava Gerovitch, From Newspeak to Cyberspeak: A History of Soviet Cybernetics (MIT Press, 2004)
Orit Halpern, Beautiful Data: A History of Vision and Reason (Duke University Press, 2015)
Orit Halpern, Robert Mitchell and Bernard Dionysius Geoghegan, The Smartness Mandate: Notes toward a Critique (Grey Room 68, 2017)
Orit Halpern, Financializing Intelligence: On the Integration of Machines and Markets (e-flux, March 2023)
N. Katherine Hayles, How We Became Posthuman: Virtual Bodies in Cybernetics, Literature, and Informatics (University of Chicago Press, 1999)
Steve J. Heims, John Von Neumann and Norbert Wiener, From Mathematics to the Technologies of Life and Death (MIT Press, 1980)
Ronald R. Kline, The Cybernetics Moment: Or Why We Call Our Age The Information Age (Johns Hopkins University Press, 2015)
Eden Medina, Cybernetic Revolutionaries: Technology and Politics in Allende’s Chile (MIT Press, 2011)
David A. Mindell, Between Human and Machine: Feedback, Control, and Computing before Cybernetics (Johns Hopkins University Press, 2004)
Andrew Pickering, The Cybernetic Brain: Sketches of Another Future (University of Chicago Press, 2010)
Norbert Wiener, The Human Use of Human Beings: Cybernetics and Society (first published 1950; Da Capo Press, 1988)
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